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Episode 23

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20th Jun 2020

Defensive Schemes

2020 New Mexico NFHS Summer Study Session Defensive Schemes 

Head Coach Aaron Ocampo, Centennial High School, Las Cruces, NM

Defensive Coach We Hurley, La Cueva High School, Albuquerque, NM

Dennis Barela (4s):

All right. Good morning. Morning, Ken. So we're back first training session of 2020 summer. We ended the spring rule session last month, about four weeks ago where we did, I don't know, 24 webinars and had, and you name it. We had a festival on giving us some great training from NFL down to division two to high school, high school experts from like Bob Arknown from Gannett, right from Alabama, just giving us some, some great, great training to the New Mexico high school officials.

Dennis Barela (43s):

But this morning we have two gentlemen from Albuquerque and from Las Cruces, they're high school football coaches that have a great to train us in defensive schemes and how they see the, the game of football through a defensive coaches perspective. So it's going to be interesting. This is the coaches opportunity to really talk to officials and kind of get everybody on the same page.

Dennis Barela (1m 18s):

So with that, Ken, are you there?

Ken Adent (1m 22s):

Yeah. Good morning, Dennis morning, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. It's been quite the spring session that we had, and I hope you guys, if he didn't get a chance to watch these live hit behind the flag website, AFOA ref website, and you guys can pull up all these previous webcasts, but today I'm really excited for, because we'd been talking about learning defensive schemes and defensive formations to make us better officials and really excited that these two coaches jumped on the first gentlemen who's gonna is on before I introduce.

Ken Adent (2m 4s):

And are you there? I can't tell. Okay. If not, no, we've got coach West Hurley from the <inaudible> high school defensive coordinator. As you guys all know these two coaches have their teams are always powerhouses year after year, and it never happens without a strong defense. So West has been married for 11 years to his wife. I don't have her name. They have an eight year old daughter Aspen, and a seven year old son of Noah West played for Carlsbad.

Ken Adent (2m 38s):

I didn't know that he'd been a quaver coach for eight years. Last four years have been defensive coordinator. Liquid has been in many state championship games. West is a national board certified math teacher and the Dean of students at the Academy at APS. So quite the resume there, Wes, I personally want to you for coming on. When I reached out to the head coach there he was Brandon. He just jumped all over this. So you guys at <inaudible> have always been really helpful for us officials.

Ken Adent (3m 12s):

You guys have even showed up at some of our meetings for the Albuquerque group and given us your time there. And we appreciate that as well. So take it away West the screen jurors.

Wes Hurley (3m 29s):

Thank you guys. I just want to say first, thanks. Thanks for having us. It's it's a pleasure to get to do this. I was talking to Dennis and I think this is like a, just a really cool experience and a really cool thing too, to sit down and actually talk football. And like me and Aaron were talking about, you know, we talk about football all the time with kids and clinics and stuff like that, but to be able to do it with reps is it's a really cool experience and a really good idea. I think. So. I just want to say thank you for the opportunity and thank you guys for, for all that you do for the game and, and allowing us to do it.

Wes Hurley (4m 4s):

So let's get started here. Can you guys see that? Yeah, we can see your screen. I don't know if I can hear him. Okay. Awesome. All right. So, so our basic defensive scheme is a four to five. That's four downline men, two inside linebackers, and then five DBS.

Wes Hurley (4m 37s):

We have two strong safety is on either side. Those guys kind of play almost like a hybrid of an outside linebackers slash strong safety position. And we bring pressure with that. We, we bring five to six guys more than 50% of the time. Usually it's just five. We don't bring a lot of six man pressures, but as we'll talk about in a little bit, some of that is, Is situationally dependent on down in distance, gain momentum, things of that nature.

Wes Hurley (5m 12s):

Some thing I feel like we do really well at, at Kuaba defensively is our Cub Ridge is aggressive. RDPs are usually very aggressive with, with rerouting hands-on receiver. There's, things like that. The majority of the time we are running a man free coverage or some variation of covered three different things like that.

Wes Hurley (5m 44s):

And something we preach to our kids. This is our kind of our defensive mantra is when we arrive, we will arrive violently. And we actually expand that to the kids. Like essentially just another way of saying like, if, when do something do it all the way. So we try to apply that to the classroom, to, to fundraising, to whatever they're doing. And like, look, if you're going to show up, you show up, you know, I'm in the weight room, whatever it is. So when we arrive, we're going to arrive with purpose, we're going to ride violently and we want people to know that we're there.

Wes Hurley (6m 20s):

So that's just kind of our, our defensive mentality and base very basic overview of, of what we run on situationally, just me as a play caller first and second down, we stayed pretty vanilla. Most of the time we'll play with coverage a little bit, you know, blitz a little bit here and there, but, but we're really trying to grind out first and second down. Most of the time we'll, we'll play a base defense unless we're looking for a change in momentum or a big play, or, you know, we've got a young quarterback and we feel like we've got him on tilt or, or something along those lines.

Wes Hurley (7m 5s):

And we'll, we'll, we'll start bringing a little more pressure at that point. Well, so we do have two different types of blitzes, third and third and fourth and short, which we define as less than four yards, we'll bring a run blitz. Most of the time, we usually do that in the A's and the a and B gaps, the, the insight gaps, but not always. It just depends on, on game playing game plan, as far as how the game is going, where their weapons are, where we think they're going to go.

Wes Hurley (7m 41s):

Things of that nature. Third and long, we kind of have two philosophies in the first option is will, will drop more men into coverage or we'll bring more pressure to rush that through some of that depends on what we've been seeing out of them. There's a lot of teams that like to max protect against us. And so with that, when you bring more men into max protection, you don't get there sometimes.

Wes Hurley (8m 12s):

And so your coverage can suffer. So if we have a team that's max protecting a lot, we'll drop into coverage and just let those guys sit back there. If they're releasing a lot of guys into routes and stuff like that, they don't have that max protection max protection will probably bring more than income block a lot of times to get to the off. And as far as just, you know, situational play calling, it really depends on, on where you are on the field.

Wes Hurley (8m 42s):

You know, as we get backed up against our own goal line, we're going to become more aggressive. You know, the, the field gets cut down, you know, if we're up and trying to protect lead, we may play off a little bit and make sure we don't give up the big play things like, you know, just simple things like that, things to that you guys might know like, Oh, in this situation they're pro you know, they might be looking to do this, you know, and I included some clips of that.

Wes Hurley (9m 13s):

So this is against Manzano second and nine. And, and this isn't a third quarter. We had this quarterback kind of Rattled a little bit. I felt so we bring some edge pressure and get there. You could see the backer kind of creep up right before he goes off the edge at the top of the screen. So that's just an example of, you know, Hey, we think we can get there. We think we can cost some, some havoc are defensive ends.

Wes Hurley (9m 44s):

If you look at the defensive end up top, he almost never goes inside. He's always playing outside contained. So when our defensive ends making strong inside move like that, it's, it becomes really difficult and an offensive tackle because he's used to him being on that outside shoulder, all games. So you can see he gets good pressure there as well. So, and you could see our coverage, the corner at the bottom, where we're definitely in a covered three, we're playing much softer than we usually play at this point.

Wes Hurley (10m 14s):

But we'll talk about the coverage behind it a little bit. Here's here's the end zone view kind of see the, the inside move and in the back or off the edge there, This is against elbow. And this is just an example of, he was trying to do this because we run that man free coverage teams really like to put us in most shit. And so you can see what they're trying to do. What Eldorado is trying to do here is just get that extra guy out of the box.

Wes Hurley (10m 45s):

They're they're having a hard time blocking us and stuff like that. So they, that motion doesn't really mean anything other than just getting him out of the box. And so you'll see, I know you guys see, give him a second E commerce and things like that.

Wes Hurley (11m 16s):

This is actually a really good play by the, the D end up top tasting that down backside. Am I good now? Yeah, we got you now, man. Free coverage. I'm sorry. You lost me there. Can you explain that? You guys hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So man free.

Wes Hurley (11m 48s):

And I'm going to go over that if we, so if we look at, let me stop this right here. So if we look at, this is actually covered three right now, but man free, what we usually do is because we have the five DBS one, two, three, four, five, every, every guy is manned up with a guy and then we have a free safety in the back. That's kind of, he's just playing center field is what he's doing.

Wes Hurley (12m 17s):

So this guy at the back doesn't have a man, unless we're bringing, if we bring a six man pressure, he usually has somebody that's when we're playing just a straight covers zero man, man defense. But man free means there's that free safety behind them. Excellent. Thank you. No problem. Good question. So here you can see, you can see, especially our corner at the bottom has really given us away. This is I'm Eldorado in the fourth quarter.

Wes Hurley (12m 48s):

So we're up a little bit. So we're, we're definitely, this is one of those situations where we're still bringing a little bit of pressure, but you can see our RDBMS are playing back. This is definitely a covered three. Our free safety should be closer to the middle of the field. Dropped a pick there, but high school kids. Right. But again, sometimes when we bring pressure, especially late in the game like that, if we're going to bring pressure off the edge like that, we're going to play as a soft coverage behind it to make sure we don't get burnt deep.

Wes Hurley (13m 31s):

This is another, you could see more emotion and us adjusting to it. This is another blitz off the edge, third and 12. And so, you know, third and 12, we've got a sophomore quarterback. This particular game was really windy. So, so we're going to put people in his face and make him make a, make a tough throw. You can also see our coverage a little better here with, with the rerouting, the collisions and things like that, which we'll talk about, but Yeah, we got there.

Wes Hurley (14m 5s):

We didn't get them, but that's enough to get him on the move and get him flustered and probably the same blitz. I think we saw against Manzano. You see it a little better CR or backer Walk up and then off he goes and you know, we miss him, but So that's third and 12. That's, you know, we got off the field right there. So that's, that's an easy play, You know, once, once we get there and get, get those guys off the field.

Wes Hurley (14m 38s):

Let's see this, this is a six man pressure. So this is again, right? The same game, third and nine. We got that sophomore quarterback still. So we're going to send some pressure, light him up a little bit, get him in there. So you see, we do a really bad job here of adjusting to the motion. So the motion comes across and we don't adjust to it. So we ended up with a wide open guy sitting right here. Luckily he drops that ball, but you can see, we don't adjust with the motion.

Wes Hurley (15m 11s):

We send six and we get there, but he misses gets the ball off that should've been in a completion. But again, third and nine, that's one of those situations where we're going to bring, we're going to bring extra guys in a situation like this. So I think that's all I offer situ. Yeah.

Dennis Barela (15m 29s):

I have a question. So you keep saying, you know, referring to the quarterback end and you know, he's a sophomore quarterback. Would your defense scheme change? If there was a senior out there that say, Hey, won the championship last year and he's just really picking you guys apart.

Wes Hurley (15m 49s):

Absolutely. You know, if that's a guy that's going to sit back there and make that I throw, you know, and like I said, the quarter, the quarterback here does a hell of a job of getting the ball to the receiver. But typically, you know, senior quarterbacks, they have a little more Moxie about them. They'll sit back there and make that throw and take the hit. And, and if that happens, now, we're sending guys, guys are open, windows are bigger. So it does depend on the kid. You know, we did the same thing against cebolla last year, they, they started that freshmen.

Wes Hurley (16m 23s):

So the young quarterbacks who aren't used to the speed of RC ball, we like to try to speed them up a little bit. You know, even if we don't get there, we want them in their heads about, Oh God, here they come. You know, just, just to give them something to think about, but it definitely changes based on, based on the age of the quarterback and you know, how experienced a quarterback is, you know, if we played this kid this year, we're probably not gonna blitz him as much because he's, he's a really good runner and he's, he makes really good decisions now.

Wes Hurley (16m 60s):

But luckily in this game he was just a sophomore. So that helped us.

Dennis Barela (17m 4s):

Right? No, I get it. I just need to stop here. I just wanted to clarify that can, you know, cause you know, blitz in the quarterback from Rio Rancho last year, Isaiah Chavis, that kid can run and, and you know, you just outrun your line, black Packers. But so, so as officials, you know, when we're tonight, pregame, we kind of want to know and take a look at, at who's on the field as far as quarterbacks and what the defense would like try to do to that quarterback.

Wes Hurley (17m 39s):

Absolutely. And Isaiah was, Isaiah was a hell. I mean, we, there were a couple of times we got to him and hit him right in his jaw. And he, he delivered the throw and then right up and each, you know, it's, it is really the difference in just that experience. You know, there's a, there's a big difference between a 15 year old and a 17 year old and, and in high school football. So that's why you always see senior heavy teams usually make a deep runs, have good seasons, things like that.

Wes Hurley (18m 12s):

So good question. I think I'm doing okay on time. The last thing I want to talk about is, Oh, so this is where we actually change our coverage. This is another situational here. You can see us in too high. We've got two safeties back there. We don't do that a lot, but this is right before halftime. They're going into to, to try to score it's first and 10, they're an empty, right?

Wes Hurley (18m 44s):

So there's no running back. So what we've done is we've replaced one of our linebackers with another DB, with another safety. And so our box is really light. But we're playing coverage behind it. So this is, this is one of those things where we don't necessarily, we still get to the quarterback, but in this, the philosophy behind this, isn't, we're not sending any extra guys we're just rushing for.

Wes Hurley (19m 14s):

And you can see we've got coverage across the board with two guys playing deep halves. . Trying to essentially protect the end zone before the end of the half. So, and you can see the coverage is pretty tight there. So, so let's talk a little bit about our man free. This is what we coach our kids to do. So our kids collision and reroute the receiver at five yards.

Wes Hurley (19m 47s):

If they get a pass read, we tell them not to take their eyes off their receiver. Okay. Our, our DB should not be looking back at the ball ever. And this has been a, we've actually had a refs tell us that they, they threw the flag because the DB wasn't looking back and you know, we have an exchange or whatever, but we, we coach our kids not to look back after we reroute. We tell them to play through the hands. So that means that that receiver's hands go up your hands, go up.

Wes Hurley (20m 18s):

So we, we absolutely tell them, do not look at it. Look back for the bar unless they are completely in face. So what we teach, what we coach our kids is if you are a hip to hip with that receiver, I mean, you are his shadow. You are on him. Then you can look back for the ball. Other than that, if you're out of phase by half a step, you have to play through the hands and play and keep your eyes on the receiver. If the ball. So our whole is creating very small windows for a receiver, for a quarterback to put the ball into.

Wes Hurley (20m 54s):

If the ball hits the hands of receiver, this is where the ARIDE violently comes in. We strip it out while securing the tackle. So we, we teach our kids until that whistle blows. It's not a catch. So even if the receiver gets his hands on the ball, we're going to strip and, and punch at it to try to knock it out. And, and I was talking to coach <inaudible> about this the other day, we, we really preach, do not grab and do not hold.

Wes Hurley (21m 24s):

We actually, we, every couple of weeks we will take a DB who who's got called for holding, or won't stop doing it in practice or something. And we'll put tennis balls in his hands and we'll duct tape him to where he has to play the whole practice with these duct tape clubs, to where he can't grab anybody. Mmm. So, you know, when you're, when you're creating that contact in that collision, I think it's natural for kids to, to want to grab. So that's, that's a habit and almost an instinctual thing that we try to coach our DBS not to, not to do.

Wes Hurley (21m 60s):

And you know what, the sideline we play. There's a lot of times, you know, we'll get a flag or something, there'll be coach. I didn't do anything. And we pull it up on the iPad. We were like, look, you're pulling Jersey. Like you dang sure did like stop dude. You know? And so that

Dennis Barela (22m 13s):

We do have a comment. And just to clarify DPI from one of the, the deep wings back judges, the defensive back is not looking back for the ball. Last contact if needed for DPI still must be contact, but threshold is lower since they aren't playing the ball. So just so you're aware of, of what the backdoor judges are looking for in that scenario.

Dennis Barela (22m 44s):

And so we do know that face guardian is legal. If, as long as you can touch them and you and your face guard, and that's not DPI, but as far as not playing the ball that back, judge wanted, wanted you to know exactly what they're looking at on that scenario.

Wes Hurley (23m 3s):

Correct. And the only contact that we're preaching when the balls in the air is when the ball hits the receiver's hands. Right. Right.

Dennis Barela (23m 13s):

And then there's a question. What is your trips, bunch of adjustment in man coverage? How do you trade routes?

Wes Hurley (23m 23s):

Well, that's a good question. So if we're in, if we're in true man coverage, we'll, we'll switch routes. I had some clips of those, but I didn't put them in here. We will switch routes. But then as far as, and teams do this a lot, because they know we run the man three a lot. They'll put us in motion to see, to try to create mismatches. Did it really well against us last year, but it's, that's easy when you have four really good receivers too.

Wes Hurley (23m 53s):

So what the, what we'll do, we'll do one of two things. It, when that guy motions to trips or they line up in trips, if they line up in trips, we'll try to bring our strong safety over. So we're matching skill with skill. If they motion to trips, we'll do one of two things. We'll either bump our bump, our backers. So the strong safety will go into the inside. And then that inside backer will, we'll take the motion guy or number three on the trip side. However, if we feel like they're doing that a lot, and it's creating a mismatch, we have done well, where with that motion to trips, we'll bring our free safety down to cover number three, leave the inside backers inside.

Wes Hurley (24m 38s):

And then that strong safety that the motion is going away from we'll float back. So we'll, we'll roll those safeties instead of bumping the linebackers. And I think that's

Ken Adent (24m 52s):

About 25 minutes, Dennis, before you, before you introduced Ocampo can I ask one more question, please? If anybody has any questions, now's your time West. Can you go back to that? The, when you had to free safeties or to that, that, that one back. Okay. So as, as I'm usually work back, just so I can only speak really backed out. So I only have, after I do my pre snap routine, I don't have much time to analyze a deep sense of setting up.

Ken Adent (25m 27s):

I mean, now that you're showing me this, obviously I'm going to be more in tune with how they're getting set up. But looking at this, I have, I don't know, three to five seconds to try to read defense, see what the offense is, setting up. What can I expect those two deeps to do? And you, you, you said they just take sides. They play a zone, basically.

Wes Hurley (25m 48s):

Yeah. So how can we coach those? Those cover two safeties is they should stay on the hash and they've got half the field though. He has that half and he has this half. So, but they should stay on the hash is they don't do a really good job like that. Like, Oh, tool is over here. I don't know. He should be, especially with trips. His butt should be right here. But I think it's cause this there on this hash, he's cheated over a little bit that, and he probably feels like anything out here he can still get to, but yeah, they should be staying on the hash and, and covering each half of that field.

Wes Hurley (26m 31s):

And as you can see at the beginning of this play to make that a little harder, is there going hurry up right now? So you can see, I mean, there's, there's not a lot of time between plays to, to try see what's going on anyway, because things are moving at this point. So I, I completely understand, but yeah, that's what those guys are looking for. So if an offense is going to attack this, it's going to be right in here, which considering it's the end of the half we're looking good for, because we'd like to make a tackle, just run out the clock right there.

Ken Adent (27m 5s):

I guess that's really what my question was. Where would that defense be attack you? You said right in the middle of the field door

Wes Hurley (27m 11s):

Right there. Yeah.

Dennis Barela (27m 14s):

Great. Thank you. Does anybody else have any questions for Wes before we switch to the next presenter? All right. So thanks Wes. We really appreciate your time. That was, that was great. That's exactly what we're looking for. And, and, you know, we really appreciate your time.

Ken Adent (27m 41s):

Wes, can you stick around? Do you have time to stick around? I'm sure we're going to have more questions after Aaron's presentation.

Wes Hurley (27m 49s):

Absolutely. I'm not going anywhere.

Dennis Barela (27m 50s):

Thank you. So our next clinician is Aaron is married to Eileen and they have two children, 15 year old daughter, 11 year old son, Aaron played football grants, high school for his father. He played at Highlands for one season, 1995. Then he transferred to UNM and played there from 95 to 97.

Dennis Barela (28m 21s):

After his playing career, he became a assistant coach as a coral for one year, then moved on to Manzano, then became head coach at Manzano from 2001 to 2011. Now coach compo is the head coach at Centennial where he has an overall coaching record of 61, 21. I hope that's right. I'm not a math teacher. So I think that's what I came up with. And he also coaches track and field.

Dennis Barela (28m 53s):

So Aaron it's all yours. Appreciate your time. And can't wait to hear what you have to say.

Aaron Ocampo (29m 1s):

All right. Thanks. Thanks for having me. And let me get this shit here. Thanks. Thanks for having me. It was nice. Listen to the West there. And can you all see my PowerPoint here? Yes, we can see it. Okay. Unfortunately, I don't have the intelligence that West does. I can't get the PowerPoint into my huddle. So I'm going to have to go back and forth Just a little bit about our defense. We, we, we want to create a nightmare for the coach and the players on the other team.

Aaron Ocampo (29m 34s):

That's the biggest thing we try to do. Kinda like what West just talked about with the young quarterback. So we, we want do that With attack and movement on defense. What, what that means is, is we want to move pre snap and post snap, just so the Lyman don't know where we're coming from. The quarterback doesn't know what coverage he's seeing. And more importantly, the coach or the play caller doesn't know what we're going to be in from play to play, to play. I know I call the offense, if you pretty much, no.

Aaron Ocampo (30m 7s):

When you're calling a play that the defense is going to adjust a certain way. It it's easier to call plays. If you're calm plays and you know, it could be three or four different things. It's much harder to get, get in a rhythm calling play. Mmm. So that's what we do. You know, we, we do a pretty good job defensively. We're we're not a team that has a whole bunch of creatures. You running around, you know, a bunch of six, three kids or anything like that. We were smaller and we've got some tough kids and, and we feel like we have to move in in, in order to be an in order to be proficient defensively.

Aaron Ocampo (30m 42s):

So one thing we do is we have to be proficient at multiple pressures and multiple coverages. And it may seem like it's a lot that we're doing, but for us, we, we start in spring and we're, we're getting reps and reps and reps, okay. Maybe the eight or nine different bullets is that we're doing. So we get so many reps at it. We can do it week after week after week, but it's hard for the team. We're playing to be able to prepare for it in really three days of practice. And like, like I said, we want the play caller to never know exactly where we're coming from.

Aaron Ocampo (31m 16s):

One thing we do with our blitzes is we're a primary zone blitz team. We're a three, four defense. So when we blitz most of the time, we try to back it up with coverage. If we're bringing something off the left side, then we want to have somebody backing it up with their eyes in the backfield, being able to see what's coming because coaches are smart. They know if you're bringing pressure from one area, they're going to try to beat it with a curve, a quick screen, or they're going to try it, the beat it with, you know, I don't know a speed option or something like that.

Aaron Ocampo (31m 47s):

We always want to back it up. And then one thing we do is, is our signals and our calls are not wordy. We're, we're, we're pretty much one signal calls. What, what that means is is our coach, our defensive coordinator gives one signal and that tells everybody what to do. So we may have a lot of words, but it's, it's kind of some of the same things. And the reason we do that is a lot of teams are smart. They'll see us come in from one area. Then they all look at the sideline trying to change what they're going to do.

Aaron Ocampo (32m 18s):

Well, it's pretty easy for us to change the defensive call to coach a coach, Louis labyrinthine, our defensive coordinator does an awesome job with this. If the other team's changed in their play call, then right away, our kids look at our coach and we have signals. That mean we're going to keep it the same, or we have signals. That mean we're going to change the defense. Just according to what his gut is here is is one, our first, the fences that we're doing, that this is a four down zone coverage. And this is what we'd call our base defense base means we're not going to bring any pressure.

Aaron Ocampo (32m 51s):

We don't run a lot of base, but here here's a look, it's a zone and we're going to show it too deep, but we're going to play three deep. So we have a corner and the corner in the thirds, the strong safety is going to roll up and he's going to play the flat, the, the Sam, backer's going to play the flat, usually to the trip side, the mic is going to play the middle curl area. I'm sorry, the, the curl to the trip's area. And then Mike is going to play the curl. And our Mo backer is going to play the weak side flat and we'll rush for players.

Aaron Ocampo (33m 21s):

Like I said, we don't play a lot of bass, but we, we feel it's always important to have something to go back to for my cutoff video, I decided I was only gonna put, I put film from last year on it. And I was only gonna put film against some of the really good teams we played, because sometimes you put film against somebody that maybe isn't as athletic as you are. What have you. And I wanted to kind of show good and bad place here. Okay. Here, here's an example. Like, like I said, we want to be multiple.

Aaron Ocampo (33m 52s):

We don't want the play caller. Know what we're doing. Most of the time we are sending pressure here. We're not sending pressure. This is a third intense situation. And we're playing that really good quarterback from Rio Rancho right here. And in this case, we wanted to play coverage. We wanted to play with seven guys back. So we're, we're, we're disguising with a strong safety here, and he's gonna roll up on the snap. Once again, you don't want to let a quarterback just know what you're doing right off the snap. So we're disguising a little bit, a strong safety's coming up to play the flat we're rushing with four.

Aaron Ocampo (34m 25s):

And one, one thing that happens here is he doesn't get a blitz. So he's got seven in coverage and it's kind of hard to find a window for him. So he decides to talk and run and we're able to kind of track them down and get the sack there. You know? So sometimes just keeping a really good player like this off track by changing things up on him. Usually he's expecting some kind of pressure. He doesn't get it. He doesn't have the window he wants and he's got to tuck it in and go ahead and look to run, right?

Aaron Ocampo (34m 58s):

Yeah. All right, here, here's another play. This is against Cleveland. This is that same kid that was in the state championship against the quaver. But as a junior heck, he was a hecho quarterback here, here. Once again, we, we are showing like, it's going to be a man coverage and we're going to be pressuring. The coach librarian does a good job. R D coordinator. He's calling disguises with it. So we're showing like it may be a coverage zero, which means everyone's man with no deep health and on the snap, we're bailing back and we're planning our normal cover three and we're dropping seven.

Aaron Ocampo (35m 36s):

So we're, we're not going to get the great pressure, especially against, you know, Cleveland's outstanding offensive line, but we have a lot in coverage. He's able to get it under a street and step into his throw and completes a big across the middle. And this is second and 14 and it gets them a first. Now, now, if you look, sometimes this gets us since we are not running in bass, a lot, our Mike backer, you'll see right here, he chases the shallow route or cross rather than just sitting in the zone and letting these guys take the scheme's not bad.

Aaron Ocampo (36m 10s):

It's the execution from the backer. He leaves that window open and it leaves them a big area to throw the ball into. Mmm. Which, you know, probably was a difference in this game. We ended up losing it 21 to 14. And th this play, I think, resulted in, in a scoring drive form. All right, let me go back to my PowerPoint. I'm going through fast here and y'all can stop. I mean, if you have any questions or anything, but here is one of our base defenses. I, I think we called our field pressure defense more than any defense.

Aaron Ocampo (36m 41s):

We called all season long last year. And this is from our base three forefront in what we're going to do is, and this is big, you know, that I'd like to see all you officials. Sam is, is we're moving with our defensive line. We had Allstate DN two years ago, that weighed 175 pounds. He was playing D in here and he's, he was just good. Cause he could move and he was strong, but we, we can play smaller kids because they're moving and they're almost like linebackers on the field, moving around.

Aaron Ocampo (37m 10s):

So we were going to blitz him all the way down to Hey gap. We're slanting the entire defensive line this way, and we're going to bring the sand backer and we will bring the strong safety off the edge also. And we like blitz in the safety because he's usually one of our fastest best players and he's gonna cause habit quickly. Sometimes we'll switch it up and we'll send the backer instead of the safety. And when I talked about backing up the blitz, here's what we do with the corner he's going to trap. And what that means is he's going to come inside.

Aaron Ocampo (37m 41s):

The number one receiver and his eyes are in the backfield for any quick throw or any quick run out here. And he's going to be able to play that. He also has covered responsibility, which is number two, and I'm not going to go big, deep into it, but we want to cause movement. We want to cause chaos. We want to cause habit for the defense. This free safety is playing. The half that coach Wes was talking about, and this corner's playing the half. So we have different players doing different responsibilities with the movement that we're creating in the end.

Aaron Ocampo (38m 14s):

This is a five man pressure. We're only bringing five, which, which makes it a zone blitz and we're playing zone, but we're playing with different players in different spots. So let me click here and get one of the first examples of this. So right here we are, we're plan our field trap coverage and we have our strong safety and our Sam back are coming off the edge and this is a field call. So it doesn't really matter what the dif what the offense is doing.

Aaron Ocampo (38m 45s):

We're going to bring this from the field side. And I think it's somewhere around 80% of the snaps in high school football, at least for us are happening near the hashes. So we're, we're a field boundary defense. Mmm. You see, we got some disguising going on. We have our free safety running over and playing the half here. Our corner corner is doing the trap. This corner's coming back, playing the half. Now we have a little adjustment here being that the corner doesn't need to run to the half because it's tripped.

Aaron Ocampo (39m 15s):

So he kind of stays locked up here and then the line slats across. So what we get is every woman's slanty. We get home on the quarterback. It's just a little bit too late with our strong safety. And we're there getting close to hitting him. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose the defensively and we've got a bad match issue here. We've got a corner here on this <inaudible> and he runs bias. We're we're in our catch man technique.

Aaron Ocampo (39m 45s):

And our corner coach, coach West could probably help me out with this cause he coaches us really well, but our corner doesn't slide and get in front of the receiver and get hands on well enough to slow him down and stay with them. He ends up getting beaten. The kids still catches the ball, but here's an example of a bad play. You know, sometimes you, sometimes you lose along these blitzes, you, you take chances and you lose. But I think we held Cleveland to the lowest amount of points they had all season with 21, just because of the deception.

Aaron Ocampo (40m 17s):

We were constantly giving them here's a play against Revere Rancho, same call. We're sending the Sam, we're sending the strong safety. We got the coroner trap and right behind it, the free safety is going to play the half to the field. And once again, we've got movement, we've got deception and we feel this is really good run defense for us because when we bring that strong safety, the, The old line has to account for them. So the tackle here is blocking our strong safety, which now leaves our inside backer free to be an extra hat on the run.

Aaron Ocampo (40m 54s):

So we, we, we really liked playing our trap coverages in run situations or in past situations. But we, we feel it's something that could help us both ways here. You can see our D line slant across. We're trying to run. If a play goes this way, we're running it down that way and we're blitzing it from the other side. So we just create some confusion with the other team's offensive line. As we go, Let me, let me skip for the next play here.

Aaron Ocampo (41m 24s):

Here. It's gotten real popular to do RPOs run, pass options. And here's an example right here of us getting pressure on the field side blitz. And our linebacker comes out because he doesn't have any immediate run responsibility. He's more of a past player first and he ends up getting an interception and running it four, four touchdown. The other thing I want you to see on this is our free safety's running the half and our coroner's able to come in and traps.

Aaron Ocampo (41m 57s):

So if they want to try bubble screens or anything like that, our coroner can see it and come right in and make a play.

Ken Adent (42m 3s):

Aaron, can I jump in with a quick question? Yes. I'm noticing a theme from both the quaver and Centennial that I don't see a whole lot of press coverage on. You guys seem to give a pretty big buffer to the wide receivers. Can you, I, late on that.

Aaron Ocampo (42m 27s):

Yeah. I'm, I'm not a fan of press coverage at all. We do do a little press coverage. If, if we get to it, then I'll, I'll show one of our defensive calls where we do play some press coverage, but here's why I don't like press coverage is I feel if this corner was to press this receiver and you run him off, which means I'm going to run him on a route 40 yards deep, that corner has to play the receiver. He can't peek in the backfield to see what's going on.

Aaron Ocampo (42m 57s):

So if I line up four receivers and run four receivers off, then that's for defenders. You're not playing with him. Now you're defending with seven And we want to defend with all 11 players. So the two defenses I've showed you so far zone defenses. And the one great thing about zone blitzes is we can pressure, but all of our defensive back's eyes are in the backfield seeing what's going on, they're able to get a run pass, read. The other thing we're coaching our guys to read is we're coaching them to read the tackles.

Aaron Ocampo (43m 28s):

If you can see the tackle, and if you could see he's fired out, run blocking, then now I know I can play heavier to run. If I see he's past blocking, well, now I could get my eyes on my past reads and know that it's probably going to be a pass. So there's so many, I mean, we're constantly telling our DBS, Hey, cheek, get the answers to the test, cheat. See what you see, what you're seeing from the Lyman have soft eyes, see everything. But the last thing I want is for our guy to be pressed, and then they could just run them off. And then the other thing with presses, you, you leave yourself susceptible to the big play, especially in blitzes.

Aaron Ocampo (44m 0s):

Like if we're playing, if we're blitzing and we don't have any help, I want my corner off that way. If they throw a short pass, I can run up and defend the short pass and I can make a tackle. But if we blitz, let's say we're blitzing six guys, and he's pressed. The quarterback can easily take a drop, throw a fade. And now they have a chance to complete a fade. And the blitz isn't going to matter because he's going to get it off before he gets hit. Anyway. So we're big on playing off. We're big on our corner, seeing everybody, and I want to play defense with guys.

Aaron Ocampo (44m 32s):

I don't want to play with seven guys. Mmm. Some teams get away with it. Some teams are really good Eldorado back a few years ago, they would press a lot. They play a lot of man and they were so good in the box that you weren't going to get by him anyway. But that's, that's a really good question. I'm going to move on to our, our sister blitz our boundary trapped bullets. So what our boundary trap blitz is, is we're going to disguise like we're coming from the field, but instead we're going to bring the will and we're going to bring our Moe backer and we're going to slant to the field.

Aaron Ocampo (45m 7s):

And the idea is the same. We're still playing trap covers the corner on our, on the blitz side is going to trap. The free safety is going to play. The half. This corner is going to play the half. Our strong safety is a trap. And then we've got two underneath players with our Sam and our Mike backer. The beauty of this is it's, we're able to disguise. We're able to skies the field pressure and run a boundary pressure. So right here is a good example here. This is Crucis and they get in their double wing.

Aaron Ocampo (45m 37s):

They like to do this against us. Cause, cause we blitz. Mmm, but here they don't. Miss quarterback doesn't know where it's coming. He doesn't know if it's coming from the field or if it's coming from the boundary, the coordinator doesn't know what's coming. So you've really gotta be ready for everything. So here they end up motioning and they send a fly series to the field, which theoretically would be good. You have a lot of field to run out there and we're blitzing from the boundary.

Aaron Ocampo (46m 8s):

But as you watch, all of our players are running toward the place going and we've got, blitzers chasing it down from behind. So we ended up making a play for like a one yard gain right here. Mmm. If you watch our Deliman, they're all just running down the line or running down the line and they're reading the alignment as they go. And one thing that I'd hope as officials you can kind of see is when we're slanting and when we're moving a lot of times, offensive linemen get lazy and they're going to grab a hold and they're going to pull us and they're not going to try to let us get to our gaps.

Aaron Ocampo (46m 44s):

For instance, right here, this week's IDN. He's 180 pound kid. And he's slacked in across this guard's face and right away what the guard does is he grabs a hold of them and pulls and he's, he's doing everything. He can keep me from getting out there and cruises highs, one of our big rivals. And there there's some holding son of a guns. Those guys, I think when they're freshmen, they teach them how to hug and hold and, and they kind of know you're going to call us sometimes for it, but you're not going to call us all the time for it. So they're going to keep doing it.

Aaron Ocampo (47m 15s):

Mmm. Here is another example of the boundary pressure. We're sending the, the blitz from the boundary. We're slant in that way. And we're chasing it from behind here on this one, they're running back, did an outstanding job of breaking the first. And as you see here, we we've, we've got some din going on and you could see right over here, this tight in who is an excellent tight end. You can just see them grabbing a hold of our DNA. And sometimes you get it. I'm a former old lineman.

Aaron Ocampo (47m 46s):

I was taught to hold from day one. Sometimes they're going to get called. Sometimes they're not, but here's the example. We're chasing it down. And what we'd like to see is we'd like to see this outside backer right here. We'd like to see him throw and he, he should have thrown it. And, and, and Gator rolled that he should have. He should have just dove out, grabbed and twisted the legs and brought them down right there. But he decided not to throw, which ultimately cost us a seven yard gain right here. But the, the beauty of this blitz is we see a lot of teams who, the zone read stuff.

Aaron Ocampo (48m 17s):

This guy is playing the running back. This guy is playing the quarterback and we, we work out a lot. So teams have a hard time running this own read against us. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I want to make sure we get through all these different beef fences. So, right right. Now we, we, we kind of have blitzes off of each other. We got the field, we got the boundary. Now this is a another field pressure pressure, But this is a cover three pressure. So very similar to the coverage.

Aaron Ocampo (48m 49s):

One of the coverages that that coach West was talking about, we've got our corners plan. Thirds are free safety's plan in the middle post. And then our strong safety is going to roll up. And we're usually going to bring some combination of Sam and Mike pressure on the field. And the D linemen will slant toward the boundary. The Mo backer will play the middle hole and the will backer will play the flat on the boundary side. So we're once again in a five man pressure, but this time, instead of playing trap coverage, we're playing a cover three coverage.

Aaron Ocampo (49m 22s):

So let me get to The next one here. So we, we like doing these in a little bit more past situations, being that we have a free safety deep you're you're, you're kind of losing that, that man in, in, in, in run right here. So we're bringing that field pressure and Rio Rancho was one of the better teams that we played last year, as far as picking up pressures. But right here, you see that this was the Gatorade player of the year, last year in New Mexico quarterback here.

Aaron Ocampo (49m 54s):

And he's visibly, you know, he seen the blitz and he's throwing hot, but he's wanting to get rid of that ball too quickly. And he throw something a little bit too quick, just because of a pressure dynamics, just because we're doing different things here. Our mobile hacker does a poor job in his, in his, in his whole area. He's going to have the middle hole. And as he sees that tight income, he overplays the running back, going on the swing. So when the running back goes on the swing, he's got to understand that the wheel backers taking the swing and he's taking the new number three player that's coming inside.

Aaron Ocampo (50m 29s):

And so we overplay that, but luckily with the pressure and with the quarterback wanting to get rid of the ball quickly, they ended up throwing a pass. That's a little bit too quick. Yeah. And here you'll, you'll, you'll see our front. We've got the beeline slanting this way. We've got the backer coming in and the setup stand back or coming right here. Here is our, our cover three zone blitz to the field versus a run play.

Aaron Ocampo (51m 3s):

They're running a quarterback stretch play. And luckily we have the blitz coming right into it. I'll show you on the end zone. What, what the blitz is, our strong safety should be coming up a little bit harder on this. He's kind of coming up slow. Okay. But it does, it does provide a really good disguise for the receiver because the receiver thinks I don't have to block him since he's deep, hands up a block and ham, which keeps our strong safety coming down free. And we get a bunch of hats right there on the outside zone stretch play.

Aaron Ocampo (51m 38s):

Now we like to do a twist action, which a lot of times can call a can cause holding penalties also we'll sometimes bring and th the mic here and the end around. So we get a little bit of a game action going in on that. Our DN does a good job as he's doing the twist. He sees the stretch action and he moves out with the stretch action, which gets him in on the tackle. The other good thing about this is, is we're, we're playing a cover three, which I think coach Westwood would agree that this is a good way to keep everything underneath you in a past situation.

Aaron Ocampo (52m 12s):

Well, here, I think this, I don't know what the situate it's first and 10 here, and we're running the twist game with the blitz. And it's a good way to defend, draw a lot of teams like running draws or screens. And when you do that twist action, it, it, it really keeps them from running that. So they're, they're trying to run a draw and Crucis expects us to be in our crap coverage. So coach Lopez is really smart. He knows that we like to play track coverage and draw is a good call to trap coverage. But since coach labyrinth is mixing it up here, we're in our cover three coverage.

Aaron Ocampo (52m 47s):

And it's not a very good call here. So this is an example of us getting one over the playcaller. He's expecting one thing. We give them another, and now we've, he's guessed wrong. And we're running the same defensive schmeme. All right, let's move on right here. Now this, this call is a cover to man and, and coach earlier was talking about man, free man.

Aaron Ocampo (53m 19s):

Free is simply, you got one free player and there's bye people, man, on the five eligible receivers we'll cover too. Man is two players playing deep paths with the Mike, the Mo the Sam, the corner and the corner playing the five eligible receivers man underneath. And when we do this, we only rush for this is almost opposite. Our philosophy because we are a big pressure team, but kind of like coach said, if teams want to max protect you, they want to keep a bunch of guys in the box and throw deep.

Aaron Ocampo (53m 56s):

It's better for us to double cover the receivers. So a lot of times, if coach labyrinth is feeling like, Hey, and there may be a chance that they're going to throw deep, he'll call our cover to man and we'll disguise it. And we'll, we'll be able to double cover their receivers. Meaning, you know, if the stud kid is here and he's running a streak on us, we can press and we can play man on him and have another player go over there to play it. So essentially he's double covered. And what we do when we play this is we teach our guys depress in this situation because we want to play a trail technique.

Aaron Ocampo (54m 32s):

And what that means is we want to be beat on this when it's the underneath coverage. If he beats us, I'm trailing him and I'm running in his hip. I know I have deep health is going to play the deep ball. What I'm doing is I'm playing underneath them. So wherever he breaks, I'm ready to break that way. So we haven't covered underneath. And over the top, it's something that we feel is pretty effective. And I've got a few clips of it. We don't play it a lot, but we do try to play it in, in certain situations.

Aaron Ocampo (55m 4s):

Okay? So right here, you see where we're disguising, But at the last second, our corner over here, it's pressed. This corner is going to press. We've got the Mo on him. The Mike is on the running back. The Sam is on the slot and these guys are playing closer. But by the time the ball snapped, we want them at about 12 getting depth. So they're both playing each side of the field. And we don't. We tell our guys to kind of play the hash, but they're also kind of playing the receivers to where we, I mean, we really want to know who their guys are, who are the guys that are trying to throw to, we want to be ready to play against those guys.

Aaron Ocampo (55m 41s):

So right here, our backer comes across and we switched this. When, whenever these two get close, these two switched off The routes, just cause it's easier to do that. And we have the guides plan half's here. And we, we make, there's no place to throw down the field for the quarterback. We've got everybody covered underneath. You see right here, our corner does a pretty good job. He's playing heavy inside leverage. We don't want to give up the slant.

Aaron Ocampo (56m 12s):

And we're playing that trail technique to where we are not letting him break on an outer, a comeback. And we know we have our details. Our backers are covering the two slots. Pretty good are Mike takes his eyes off the running back, which was really dangerous. But luckily he goes to makeup and the running back falls over. The one thing I want you to see here is the quarterback. He's a heck of a quarterback. I think he was first team, all state last year, second team, all state he's used to seeing pressure.

Aaron Ocampo (56m 43s):

Now he sees it's, it's two man, and whatever he's expecting right away, he gets off and he can't get in a ribbon because of the things that we're doing. Defensively ends up making a good play. But unfortunately the running back falls over. All right here. Here's another play right here, coach Labrie. And he sees that they're in double tight. Cleveland's not often and double tight. He knows that. So they're back deep written. Our has a big tendency. If he's packed up deep, he's probably gonna throw deep and get himself out of that territory. And they got a six, five receiver that's, you know, <inaudible> so we know what they're probably doing.

Aaron Ocampo (57m 18s):

So he ends up calling our, our lot coverage. And here we are planning and a lot coverage and the quarterback he sees, we want to disguise it. So our safeties are playing close. Like we may be playing the run and then he's pedaling the play that half quarterback sees. It's not there ends up just kind of throwing it away. But for whatever reason, we, we, their receiver stops. Our coroner just starts playing him and the heat kind of flails.

Aaron Ocampo (57m 49s):

We kind of get pushed around and they get a penalty and they get 15 yards on us on that one. But that's sometimes the way it goes here. When we do play our lock, we usually slide to a format front and we just know there's not going to be great pressure. But like coach said, their max for Keck, which means they're keeping seven, eight guys in protection. They only have two on the route. So now we're not going to get home. We're not going to get pressure. Especially with those creatures. They have as alignment at Cleveland. But what we do have is we have double coverage.

Aaron Ocampo (58m 20s):

Is that stud out there that we can't really cover? Well now we've got him double cup. Okay. Here's another example of our lot coverage for dry here.

Ken Adent (58m 31s):

Can I interrupt you real quick? Can we go back to the previous clip?

Aaron Ocampo (58m 34s):


Ken Adent (58m 35s):

Where do you disguise your double team on their showed wide receiver? Yes. And as officials, you know, we talk about this, play a lot, having a patient flag, two step process. To me, it, I hope some of you, other guys that we have a couple of division, one college football guys on this too. This is once the wide receiver gives up his route to me, he turned into a defensive back and, and w you know, basically gave up on the play.

Ken Adent (59m 5s):

So I think if the official, you know, and I know we're not running a crew of seven, so the back judge and the wing have a pretty good look at this, but I don't know if I think if that flag comes out a little more patient And you really analyze the play, did the wide receiver give up and turn it into a defensive back

Ken Adent (59m 22s):

To keep anybody else from getting to the goal. Does anybody else see that besides myself?

Aaron Ocampo (59m 32s):

I see exactly what you're talking about. I felt, I felt a little bit irritated with this call during the game. And I kind of felt during the game, we were getting a lot of calls against us. And this is in the quarterfinals. And, you know, Cleveland, I think was the one seat, or I don't know, they were a high up seed, whatever it was three, two. And sometimes I feel like in the playoffs, if you, you, you get a crew and it's a crew, that's not a central crew in Albuquerque, or it's a crew from Cruces. You get a crew from someplace else in the state. And sometimes on, on that home field, I feel like it, like, there's a feeling like one team should win.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 0m 8s):

And cause I mean, probably it's not even anything consciously, but sometimes the calls just don't go your way when you're on the road like that.

Ken Adent (1h 0m 18s):

Yeah. I see your point. You coaches are passionate, but I was hoping to Joseph for Sean Bennett could jump in and Discuss this display a little bit because it's, it's pretty important to us to get these correct.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 0m 30s):

And at least have a discussion about,

Shawn Bennett (1h 0m 33s):

Can you go back to the sideline deal? Yeah. So I can see, you know, the reason the fight came out so quickly. So if you pause it with a ball in the air right now, we see context already been made by the DB. So his initial thought was, I've got balls in the air. I've got contact by the DB now in our thought process, you know, am I going to take the time to think, well, why is the contact there?

Shawn Bennett (1h 1m 9s):

The receiver cut his route short. Did he give up? Honestly, you know, depending on the situation, I get my mic. Thanks for that. Or I might just say, well, I saw balls in the air and contact by the DB. I'd look for help from knowing official. Now, does he have a better angle? Did he see something different? But you know, I think I do see the contact with the ball in the air. There's no doubt.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 1m 31s):

And the point of contact was because the receiver stopped. Yeah. Both two guys threw the flag, so, you know, that's what they saw. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Sorry. I just didn't want to go on without having a quick discussion about it. Okay. Do I have another call or is that it? Oh yeah, I do. Okay. And then our final defense I was going to show w is, is cover zero pressure. And what covers zero pressure is, is where we're not having anybody deep corner is man safety is man.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 2m 6s):

Free. Safety is man corners, man. And we can do cover zero pressure, a couple of different ways. We can assign one of the linebackers to cover the running back. Or in this case, we have a pressure where we're sending seven and the Sam and the will backer have what's called flare control. So that, what that means is that the running back runs a swing. Then they've got them. So we're, we're bringing seven. If the running back stays in, we got seven going. But if he runs this way, then the Will's got him and everybody else has continuing pressure.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 2m 37s):

Knowing we're going to get a couple people home because they only have five to protect. If the running back runs into the line, then what our DNS are doing is there is they have, what's called mushrooms, which they're mush. They're, they're pushing up and they're rushing, but they've got the running back on screen. So their job, they're not trying to sack the quarterback. They're just pushing back. And they're looking for quarterback scramble, or they're looking to grab the running back if it's a screen. And they're, if the running back breaks out free on a screen, we'll almost take the holding call and take the penalty over, letting him catch the ball, because we know that could be trouble if he ends up catching that.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 3m 16s):

So let me show you some clips. So this, we feel cover. Zero's a good change up because in a past situation, you can get pressure on the quarterback and you can get more guys in his face. And one of y'all asked that great question earlier. I, I do not want to press. If we're playing covers zero, I tell. And sometimes my DB coaches want to, and I'm telling we're not pressing. Cause if I press this guy, he can throw a streak or a fade.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 3m 46s):

He can just catch it and throw it. And they have a good chance to complete it on us. And the blitz means nothing. We can't get there in time to do <inaudible> to do anything, but we like to play the catch coverage. And we've learned this from <inaudible> where you play off and you sit there and stone, you don't backpedal. You just play off and you're reading the quarterback's quick drop. If you see him just set up to throw the ball quickly, then we're playing down on the slant. All these guys know he does not have time to throw a post. He does not have time to throw a deep streak.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 4m 17s):

He does have time to throw a slant or a hit and I can sit and play those routes hard. And I can make the tackle. I could break up the ball, whatever we want to do. We want that quarterback to hitch step and hold that ball. Once again, the disguise, the movement we showed this look earlier in the game and we played base coverage. But now we're showing this look and this quarterback, who's a heck of a quarterback. You don't know what it's gonna be. He doesn't know if it's going to be base coverage. He doesn't know if it's going to be zone blitz. He doesn't know if it's going to be man blitz.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 4m 47s):

And here on this play, they're doing a little disguising coach written our smart he's faking a snap count to see what they're doing, what we bring. We bring them up. And right here, they are wanting to run screened or the running back and here, our outside linebacker job is he's got the running back if he does flare control. So he sees the running back, go block him, forget it. You do not rush anymore. You cover him. So right here, we have him covering the back.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 5m 18s):

We have our defensive end soaking up a block, and now he's looking to help out on the running back now for the defensive backs. You see, they're all playing there. Good catch covered right here. And we've got everyone covered, man, to man. The, the one guy that's not doing a good job. It's our free safety here. And he's paddling. He shouldn't be peddling. He should be in that catch coverage. We don't want to peddle and give, give a lane. <inaudible> two years ago in the semifinals beat us.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 5m 48s):

Well, they beat us pretty good, but they hit us on a slot post because we were baling instead of playing catch coverage, show you the end zone. And there's a bunch of creative ways. You can, you can bring covers zero pressure, but once again, you want to create a nightmare for the play caller and the quarterback and the Owen. Great and nightmare form right here. The quarterback sees the pressure has to get rid of the ball quickly. He has to throw it away right there.

Dennis Barela (1h 6m 17s):

Hey coach, we have a question in the chat room. Okay. Does your zone schemes change? If it's a heavy, heavy or run heavy team? You know what? No, our, our coverages are what they are when we teach them in spring. Well, but we may call more of one thing than another going into a game plan. So on Sunday, we're okay, this team likes to do this. Well, then we're going to call a lot more of maybe trap coverages this week, or we're going to call this or this.

Dennis Barela (1h 6m 48s):

But typically we don't change what our co what our, how we do our coverages or anything like that.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 6m 55s):

We just have different coverages that we will do more of for every time. It seems like we change something on our kids and we do something a little different. Our kids aren't very good at it and they don't execute it very well. So we do our best to just stay doing what we do and being multiple enough in what we do to where we can pick from a menu that we think is best on, on, on what we're going to do. But sometimes like we may go in thinking, okay, we're only going to do this. We're not going to do trap trap coverages. And we get in the game and things aren't working good.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 7m 26s):

Coach starts calling the trap coverages, which we haven't practiced that week, but the kids know him so well. We can execute them and have success with it. It's a good question. Thank you. All right, here, here's another example of our, of our covers zero they're in a trip set. So we got three for three on the other side, and we ended up getting home on the blitz. It's funny. This is like deja VU from coach West, his video. He showed the video of the guy coming free on the same quarterback as a sophomore.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 7m 58s):

Now he's a junior and the, the dude isn't the fastest guy, but he does an awesome job and scrambled, or he makes guys miss and runs around and keeps his eyes downfield and mix throws. A, the good thing about being in a man coverage though, is, is we've got a man for a man and a, our corner really does a poor job on this of Stan with his man as he's coming in. I don't know why he passes off. Maybe he's just confused. I, you know, I really couldn't tell you, but we it's a, it's a second and 19 call and hands up making a tackle for a five yards.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 8m 32s):

So we'll, we'll take that. I'll show one more of these here. Here's a, Oh, this is back at the beginning of the cut-up. So that, that was what, what I had in this. I'm going to go ahead and stop sharing and, and I guess open any questions if y'all have any questions.

Ken Adent (1h 8m 52s):

Yeah, I was taking notes. I don't know about you guys, but this is the first of, hopefully we can have at least one more of these before this next season, and hopefully we'll have a seasonal, but Oh my God. I realize how weak I have been in understanding defenses. Well, I will tell you, I think what, what coach Hurley does at <inaudible> is really pretty unique.

Ken Adent (1h 9m 23s):

They not, a lot of teams do strictly what they do and they're, they, they, they do what they do and they do it so well.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 9m 31s):

It's tough to execute against them because they're so fundamentally sound doing it. And then what we do is really different too. I think a lot of teams just kinda line guys up and just hope they have good enough guys to stop it. But I think you did a good job in choosing coach Hurley and, you know, we've been successful. We'll, we'll see in the future, we're gonna not quite have as many talented kids this year. So it's going to be a challenge for us if we're playing

Dennis Barela (1h 9m 59s):

Well, we do appreciate your time coach and try to keep these to an hour or a little bit over, but, okay. Do you have any questions for coach Aaron or combo or coach early before we go, Coaches, do you have any questions for us now is your time to ask a, a official question without getting flagged?

Brad Bock (1h 10m 21s):

I have a question for the coaches that about what kind of communication do you want from officials? What are you looking for from us?

Aaron Ocampo (1h 10m 38s):

I think most of the time they do a real good job. If we ask what, what their, what, what they saw or, or something like that, I think they do a pretty good job. I know we had a couple of games where they had the, the, the microphone system where they could talk to each other from across the field. And that was nice. Cause you could kind of hear what they saw, but I I'd say the, the kind of, probably most challenging thing is knowing how a crew is going to be with coaches being on the field, like when we're or in between plays, some groups will kind of let you be out there, you know, three or four yards on the field.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 11m 21s):

And then other groups, you know, it seems from the start of the game, the sideline judges is kind of like, you need to be off the field the entire time and kind of being, being mean about it. So it would just be nice to have some consistency with that. I think, Hi, Dennis is a line of scrimmage guy. I'll let him talk about that, but we will definitely I'm taking notes. And when we meet with, you know, coaches and talk to assigners, we'll bring that up. I appreciate it.

Dennis Barela (1h 11m 53s):

I think the rule book pretty much outlines the sideline, you know, coaches are allowed to be on the white Between plays, but after that, they got to get back. And so as far as being on the field, the rule book pretty, pretty much defines where the coaches need to be. So personal opinion. I'll just defer to what the rule book says.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 12m 18s):

So some of the fishing aiding groups are letting people do more than they should then.

Dennis Barela (1h 12m 23s):

Right? Exactly. So, but I think that's our time. We do appreciate you guys being with us on Saturday morning, coaches, check your emails. We sent you an email and if you have any questions from us, go ahead and, and get ahold of us. And we'll try to answer what we can, as far as breakdown. There's a process to go through the animal aid's office and to get that to a evaluator on any type of Play that happened during your games.

Dennis Barela (1h 12m 58s):

If you want to question what, what went on. So

Aaron Ocampo (1h 13m 1s):

Just reach out to us. If there's anything we can do for you guys or even during the season.

Dennis Barela (1h 13m 8s):

All right. Awesome. Thank you. Alright, thanks guys. Appreciate it. And we'll see you on the field.

Aaron Ocampo (1h 13m 12s):

Alright. Thank you.

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